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Hand #44594069-xxxxx at ???????(No Limit Hold’em)
Started at 02/Aug/07 xx:20:09
rock is at seat 0 with $16.72.
rock 2 is at seat 1 with $22.40.
medium taggish is at seat 2 with $7.22.
cally wally is at seat 3 with $18.
me is at seat 4 with $23.45.
a bit loose is at seat 5 with $23.30.
new to the table is at seat 6 with $25.64.
new too is at seat 7 with $10.60.
unsure is at seat 8 with $56.72.
unsure too 74 is at seat 9 with $7.52.
The button is at seat 5.
new to the table posts the small blind of $.10.
new too posts the big blind of $.25.
rock: — –
rock 2: — –
medium taggish: — –
cally wally: — –
me: 9c 9h
a bit loose: — –
new to the table: — –
new too: — –
unsure: — –
unsure too 74: — –
Pre-flop:
unsure folds. unsure too 74 folds. rock folds.
rock 2 folds. medium taggish folds. cally wally calls.
me raises to $.75. a bit loose folds.
new to the table calls. new too folds. cally wally
calls.
I have zero read on the new guy at the table – he just sat down, so I did some things based on some assumptions…
Flop (board: 8c 7c 3h):
new to the table checks. cally wally checks. me
bets $1.50. new to the table raises to $3.75. cally wally
folds. me re-raises to $6. new to the table
calls.
At .10/.25, there’s a fair amount of what I call ‘Punishing the CBettor’ – raising cbettors off their hands when they’re stealing on the button and they miss the flop with garbage cards. I’m thinking that’s what I’m against here, hence the reraise. I’m trying to reraise more often and then either take it down or get away from it – I’m representing the overpair. He doesn’t know it’s a small overpair, but I could still have the best hand. If he folds, I know he was just trying to take it away, If he shoves back, I’m in trouble, if he just calls, I think I’m good to go against A7 or A8, which he does.
Turn (board: 8c 7c 3h 6c):
new to the table checks. me bets $14.50. (this should have been an all in, but I goofed the slider)
new to the table goes all-in for $18.89. me goes
all-in for $16.70. new to the table is returned $2.19
(uncalled).
Major card on the turn here. When he checks after the preflop, I have to believe he has A8 or A7 or something. He has to know that a bet will probably be called, so I think I’m ahead, and with the OESFD, I think I’m committed here, hence the push, which is basically a pot sized bet. I had to think about it before I did it. I don’t think I really have much fold equity unless he has garbage top pair, but it still means he played the hand poorly. It’s a troublesome hand, because he could have made the flush, but I didn’t get the feeling that was the case – I figure would not check raise the flop with ATs or AJs if he didn’t raise preflop with it, but honestly, I’m a bit confused, and I’m surprised by the reraise all in, so when he does that, I figure I have 2 outs – the straight flush outs. He has to have the A3 of clubs, so good hand, he got me, but I hate his flop call. If by some weird chance he has a set, it’s the craziest set I’ve ever seen, but hey, I’ve got tons of outs. 2 9’s, and all 15 straight and flush outs are good, so I’m only a 7-3 dog, and I’m about even with my turn shove. I’m praying for A8/A7 with the A of clubs.
Hand #44594069-11108 Summary:
$1.90 is raked from a pot of $47.90.
So what do you think? Do you think I read the hand right, or did I blow it with my turn shove? The river card, and the villains hole cards to come…
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August 2, 2007 at 11:27 pm |
I wouldn’t have re popped it on the flop, but I don’t play limits where people punish the c-bettor, so you were most likely making a good play here and gaining information. Based on your reasoning I think that you turn bet goes against everything that you said.
You said that you are representing an over pair, which I agree with. You then say that you think your opponent has A8 or A7. If he had the Ac he would have 11 outs. This makes him an 11 to 35 dog. He has about a 25% chance of winning. By betting the size of the pot you are forcing him to make a mistake which is good. However I think that you’re the one making the mistake, because you said you’re representing the overpair, so most of the time I think you won’t be called unless he has Ac with another pair, or another hand that has you beat.
With the way the hand went so far I think I’d check the turn in hopes of hitting an out if I’m behind, and at worst letting him draw to one of his 11 cards.
Are you going to punish me and make me wait forever to see the results?
August 3, 2007 at 7:38 am |
The main reason I posted the hand is because I think I did make a mistake pushing the turn, and I wanted some different takes on it.
When I first pushed, I’m thinking, I’m going to make this guy make a decision. After I hit the bet button, I kinda realized I blew it – ‘I just forced him into a correct decision’, but originally, I wanted to just take the pot down and protect the hand. When he called, I knew I was beat.
I think there’s two good lessons in this hand, and you hit the first one. There’s a second lesson that will come when you see the final results.
August 3, 2007 at 8:37 am |
I’m glad I hit 1 of 2.